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  • Phynaz - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    These cards are comparable to Nvidia cards from three years ago, even the price.
  • Gastec - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    So are the RTX 2070 and 2080, comparable to 1080 and 1080Ti but more expensive :)
  • CiccioB - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    If you look at the standard features, yes they are.
    But Turing packs a lot of new features that old gen GPU s have not, and if these features are going to be used Pascal cards (and much so GCN/Navi) will remain in the dust.
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    By the time a significant number of games come out that make proper use of these features, the current cards will be old news. This is usually true for most new graphics technology (see the GeForce 3 and DirectX 8) but I don't think it's been true to this extent and at such a high cost of entry before. We're in new territory here.
  • CiccioB - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    We are in the territory where console monopoly is lowering the technical level te market can reach.
    If just one of the two consoles were powered by nvidia HW AMD would already be in the dust and highly regret by its buyer while new games engine would exploit all the new features nvidia has inserted into its GPUs since Maxwell.
    In fact, we have a market were AMD struggle to keep up with nvidia HW even though it has all the optimization and choices made for the games to run best on its HW.
    And we still have the same geometric complexity of 2012.
  • Korguz - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    maybe nvidia, is just charging too much to put their GPU tech in a console.. how much would it cost to put even a 2060 into a console ?? i would guess 75% of the cost of the console, would just be the GPU....
  • CiccioB - Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - link

    Maybe because nvidai didn't want to sell at discount prices as AMD did just not to be annihilated in the gaming market?
    Think about that: two consoles one with nvidia and one with AMD HW. Now just think which one would have netter graphics and features.
  • Korguz - Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - link

    or maybe because.. ALL your precious nvidia cares about.. is its PROFITS.. or are you to blind of a nvidia fan boy to see this aspect ??? my guess.. you are... and.. have more money then brains.

    " two consoles one with nvidia and one with AMD HW. Now just think which one would have netter graphics and features. " ok.. and how about you think.. which would cost A LOT more then the other one because it has nvidia inside it?? ever think about that ?? as YOU said your self : " New features have a cost " and while its easy to pass that cost on to the consumer with a discrete video card.. that wont work in the console market, but when you think with your wallet.. and not your brain.. this is what happens...
  • CiccioB - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link

    All companies care about their PROFITS, and I may shock you that AMD does too!!!
    They all sell the products at the best price*potential piece sold at that price to maximize their returns.
    Guess waht?
    nvidia can apply a higher price becuase their products have higher value.
    AMD has to apply a low price because they sell crap HW that has value only whan at discount.

    It's a basic economical law.
    Now that you have learnt it, you can return play at BF5 at 120FPS but with only 10 polygons on the screen with your Vega card.
  • Korguz - Friday, June 14, 2019 - link

    higher price because their products have higher value.?? BS... they charge that, because they can, and just want profits. but you dont understand that.. cause your are just a young punk kid, with more money then brains, with no financial responsibility, living off mommy and daddy.... when you grow up, and get a mortgage, car payments, and kids.. then maybe you will start to understand the value of money and realize spending 1200 or more on a video card.. is not as important has being able to feed your children, and provide a roof over their heads, fanboy

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