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  • Dribble - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Well that's wrong - the features have only been out for months and there are already several games using them extensively with significantly better visuals as a result. That's way better the adoption rate of most DX's. In addition the early adoption has pushed ray tracing into the next gen consoles in some form - you can bet if Nvidia hadn't released RTX they would have none. Now AMD is scrambling to put something in Navi 2 (or whatever consoles have) as the console makers are both demanding it.

    You can argue the performance isn't there yet (same for pretty well every major new graphics feature) but you can't really argue that RTX hasn't hit the ground running and had a pretty big impact.
  • Korguz - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    too bad.. that impact.. is on everyones wallet Dribble :-) :-)
  • Beaver M. - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Would still pick the 1080Ti over any Turing, because ot makes much more sense, even now still.
    But Nvidia was smart enough to axe it as the only Pascal one. They knew their 2080 was too crappy to leave it on the market.
  • jabbadap - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    How about virtuallink? Does it have that, is it on tdp or is that card power only like nvidia?
  • akyp - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    The regression in perf/$ is simply disgusting. When my 970 gives up I might as well go APU and hope Google Stadia is actually good. Too bad the Ryzen APUs are a full generation behind.
  • zodiacfml - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    About to say the same thing but remember these cards are comparable to Vega cards, not the RX 480/580/590
  • RavenRampkin - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    I liked what I saw. In contrast with the $749 Ryzen part (even thought that's revolutionary stuff right there, our wallets are still doomed -_-). Don't take the hype train bait and it'll be twice as difficult to disappoint you. Call me an AMDtard fanboy I don't mind ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    (on the topic of all the megafeaturez: not believing in wide future adoption of all those DLSSes doesn't make a person a fanboy. That's some Elon Muscus level shtick imo. Same way, you'd probably call me a fanboy for bemoaning the low popularity of numerous other -- open-source -- RTG goodies. Looks like AMD decided not to bemoan any longer and go freestyle mode. No matter the performance and competition. Meh? Meh. But product quality isn't always measured in ad banner space and use in pre-builts, winkity wink to the "yarr Vega sux!!!111" gang and RTX's Witnesses. Vega was never bad and is certainly no worse than on launch at its current prices: 56 starting at $200 used, $270 new, 64 $270 used, $330 new. (Lithuania used market, U.K. stores for new units) Don't want Vega or Pascal or Polaris? The world of RTXes, where the 2060 and 2070 just barely, and with a lot of effort, reached 1060 and 1070 MSRP, in select stores only -- while the 2080 (Ti) is still cosmic -- is waiting for you. /offtop)
  • nils_ - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Disappointed to see that they still can't keep up with high end NVidia cards. I'm planning to get a new workstation / gaming rig and I would have liked to go fuill AMD, but for the gaming part I would still want an NVidia card. This leaves me with few options since I mostly use Linux and boot into Windows for gaming, there is no good Linux driver for NVidia (only their binary release that's a pain in the ass to use).

    These are my options:
    1) Go full Intel (i9900KS) + NVidia (RTX2080 Ti or successor) - Excellent graphics support under Linux with the iGUP, excellent graphics performance
    2) Go mixed: High End Ryzen (3950X), get an RTX2080 Ti and a low-end GPU for Linux, possibly sacrificing a few PCIe lanes in the process

    Price wise the latter one is probably more expensive. Or I could wait for Intel to release a new Desktop CPU...
  • scineram - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    What about Radeon VII?
  • nils_ - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Great suggestion, that might work as well, though not as fast as the RTX 2080Ti it's probably fast enough. I'm wondering about the power use in a Desktop scenario though, that's usually better with the iGPU (and disabling the dGPU).

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