Micro-ATX Cases - Shoebox Showdown
by Joshua Buss on January 2, 2007 12:40 PM EST- Posted in
- Cases/Cooling/PSUs
Benchmark Comparisons - Temperature
Ever since our socket 754 DFI motherboard has been giving us problems producing reliable temperatures for benchmarking, we've been on the lookout for a new micro-ATX motherboard for testing. We've had great luck with ASUS sensors in the past, and settled with an A8N with the popular socket 939. Using a dual-core CPU will allow us to see bigger differences in CPU heat output, and will let us better evaluate how cases handle the two extremes of cooling loads.
This new motherboard proved to be an excellent choice for our test bed, as it offered a total of eight temperature sensors - nine including the hard drive. We nailed down the location of pretty much every sensor by trial and error and some canned air sprayed upside down to provide localized cooling. Interestingly, we found the board was really showing four different temperatures for roughly the same area, which was right around the CPU. We also found a sensor in a Winbond chip in the top right which works nicely as an ambient motherboard temperature indicator, and will be shown simply as "MB" in our temperature results tables.
Our 6600 GT continues to provide both a core temperature and an ambient figure read via the NVIDIA driver, and speedfan reflected these numbers too. The only problem is that probably because we were using a separate graphics card, we couldn't find a single sensor tied directly to the north bridge, as unlikely as that may seem. For benchmarking, we took an average result after temperatures had leveled off for over 20 minutes of testing at the idle and full load tests. For loading we used two copies of the Folding@Home project (one for each core) and the popular rthdribl GPU benchmark.
Since the Qmicra is such a customizable case in terms of its thermal performance, we tested it in two completely different configurations; one with just a single Antec Tri-Cool fan on its slowest setting and the CNPS 7000 CPU heatsink, and one with four Arctic Cooling 80mm fans set at each of the designated mounting points and a CNPS 9600 heatsink. The drastic difference in overall airflow affected the temperatures of our components for sure, but we still got very interesting results.
We had to run our temperature tests over, and over, and over to be sure these numbers we were seeing were correct. Needless to say, they are not what we expected. With the Qmicra able to hold the beastly CNPS 9500, we figured for sure that combination would sweep the CPU temperature benchmarks, but instead it was beat pretty handedly by the MicroFly with the smaller CNPS 7000 cooler, both under load and at idle. We even re-mounted our 9500 several times to ensure it wasn't a fluke, but these figures here were always representative of what we saw.
The only explanation we really have is that our particular CNPS 7000 is better at making good contact against our 3800+ X2, and the Ultra's larger 120mm fan located right above the CPU area is keeping only cool air around the processor. As many have pointed out and experienced first hand, the Aria runs a lot hotter than the other offerings, getting the CPU up to a toasty 68C under full load. The good news is that we never encountered any stability problems, so really, these high temperatures don't even need to be taken as that much of a caution - just know that overclocking and the Aria might not be a smart combination.
Other interesting findings that caught our attention included the cooler-than-open-air temperatures of the hard drives and motherboard in the Qmicra once we populated all four fan mounts, suggesting that the all-aluminum design and heavy airflow is doing an excellent job of cooling those areas of the case. The huge decrease in hard drive temperature shows how targeted airflow can be more important than merely having a spacious interior. It would have been really interesting if the 9500 could've fit into the MicroFly, but even as it stands it's clear that the Chenming 118 has a good overall design for performance and the other cases designed in its style work just as nicely. Where the Qmicra really shines here though is in the flexibility. Users can come up with their own selection of fans based on their cooling needs and have custom-tailored performance.
Ever since our socket 754 DFI motherboard has been giving us problems producing reliable temperatures for benchmarking, we've been on the lookout for a new micro-ATX motherboard for testing. We've had great luck with ASUS sensors in the past, and settled with an A8N with the popular socket 939. Using a dual-core CPU will allow us to see bigger differences in CPU heat output, and will let us better evaluate how cases handle the two extremes of cooling loads.
New mATX Test Bed | |
ASUS A8N-VM nForce 430 AMD 3800+ X2 Dual Core CPU OCZ 512MB DDR2 x 2 Zalman CNPS 7000cu Heatsink or Zalman CNPS 9500 Heatsink Maxtor 80gb IDE Hard Drive Chaintech GeForce 6600GT Zalman VF-700 Cu GPU Cooler MSI DVD-CD/R/RW Combo drive Zalman ZM460-APS PSU |
This new motherboard proved to be an excellent choice for our test bed, as it offered a total of eight temperature sensors - nine including the hard drive. We nailed down the location of pretty much every sensor by trial and error and some canned air sprayed upside down to provide localized cooling. Interestingly, we found the board was really showing four different temperatures for roughly the same area, which was right around the CPU. We also found a sensor in a Winbond chip in the top right which works nicely as an ambient motherboard temperature indicator, and will be shown simply as "MB" in our temperature results tables.
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Our 6600 GT continues to provide both a core temperature and an ambient figure read via the NVIDIA driver, and speedfan reflected these numbers too. The only problem is that probably because we were using a separate graphics card, we couldn't find a single sensor tied directly to the north bridge, as unlikely as that may seem. For benchmarking, we took an average result after temperatures had leveled off for over 20 minutes of testing at the idle and full load tests. For loading we used two copies of the Folding@Home project (one for each core) and the popular rthdribl GPU benchmark.
Since the Qmicra is such a customizable case in terms of its thermal performance, we tested it in two completely different configurations; one with just a single Antec Tri-Cool fan on its slowest setting and the CNPS 7000 CPU heatsink, and one with four Arctic Cooling 80mm fans set at each of the designated mounting points and a CNPS 9600 heatsink. The drastic difference in overall airflow affected the temperatures of our components for sure, but we still got very interesting results.
We had to run our temperature tests over, and over, and over to be sure these numbers we were seeing were correct. Needless to say, they are not what we expected. With the Qmicra able to hold the beastly CNPS 9500, we figured for sure that combination would sweep the CPU temperature benchmarks, but instead it was beat pretty handedly by the MicroFly with the smaller CNPS 7000 cooler, both under load and at idle. We even re-mounted our 9500 several times to ensure it wasn't a fluke, but these figures here were always representative of what we saw.
The only explanation we really have is that our particular CNPS 7000 is better at making good contact against our 3800+ X2, and the Ultra's larger 120mm fan located right above the CPU area is keeping only cool air around the processor. As many have pointed out and experienced first hand, the Aria runs a lot hotter than the other offerings, getting the CPU up to a toasty 68C under full load. The good news is that we never encountered any stability problems, so really, these high temperatures don't even need to be taken as that much of a caution - just know that overclocking and the Aria might not be a smart combination.
Other interesting findings that caught our attention included the cooler-than-open-air temperatures of the hard drives and motherboard in the Qmicra once we populated all four fan mounts, suggesting that the all-aluminum design and heavy airflow is doing an excellent job of cooling those areas of the case. The huge decrease in hard drive temperature shows how targeted airflow can be more important than merely having a spacious interior. It would have been really interesting if the 9500 could've fit into the MicroFly, but even as it stands it's clear that the Chenming 118 has a good overall design for performance and the other cases designed in its style work just as nicely. Where the Qmicra really shines here though is in the flexibility. Users can come up with their own selection of fans based on their cooling needs and have custom-tailored performance.
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chucky2 - Tuesday, January 2, 2007 - link
:) Just asking...AlexWade - Tuesday, January 2, 2007 - link
Dear Anandtech staff:Please do more case reviews.
Signed,
Everyone
microAmp - Tuesday, January 2, 2007 - link
I'd like to see them do a review using video instead of text & pictures. I saw one other website do that and it's make a world of difference. Wish I could remember what site it was. :(JoshuaBuss - Tuesday, January 2, 2007 - link
Besides placing an excruciating load on the web servers, I think highly-detailed pictures are better than videos at least in terms of seeing exactly how things look. It's hard to get colors just right in videos, and resolution is normally low enough that some fine details are lost.. I can see where you're coming from though and we'll definitely consider it.. actually seeing things in motion can help get a better feel for some things.mino - Thursday, January 4, 2007 - link
Maybe host them on YouTube ? and consider them just a bonus to regular review...JoshuaBuss - Tuesday, January 2, 2007 - link
Copy that.. ;)In all seriousness, you can expect this section to get a lot hotter soon.. I just finished my last semester of coursework.. w00t.
SonixSquad - Wednesday, September 7, 2011 - link
Just wanted to post my experience having built my girlfriend a system about 5 years ago using the Antec Aria case.I remember it being a pain as it was so cramped and my first (and only) sff build but I got there and it was adequate. I managed to install the board without removing the PSU.
Once I started to monitor temps (was only using stock cpu cooler at the time) I realised it would need some sort of additional cooling intake and the supplied blower was a bit too loud for our liking.
Eventually I found the best air intake solution (without actually modding the case) was to just put a 120mm fan sitting next to the graphics card pulling air in from the rear.
Anyway, back to today 2011 and she still likes the case but the system needs an upgrade so I was looking at parts and having come across this article and seen the Zalman in there snugly fitting with a few mm clear of the PSU I decided to get the newer Zalman CNPS8000A which is low profile and supposedly quiet. I'll post back if it doesn't fit but I think I am going to have to remove the PSU this time around as this cooler needs to be fitted via backplate so it will have to go on before the board is in the case.
This time round she is getting an i3 2100 cpu which should run a lot cooler than the last AMD x2 one and so I'm hoping it will run a lot quieter aswell.
My criticisms about the case would be the same as noted by others. Very cramped and with a lack of decent routing the air circulation is bad. I would have appreciated some thought given to front air intake even if they didn't supply a fan but just somewhere to put one.
Also the PSU only comes with one SATA connector so I will have to get a molex to sata converter so I can power 2 sata devices.I also had some issues with the front audio inputs, at some point they stopped working properly and I still don't know why.