AMD Silently Lowers Radeon RX 560 Specifications, Now Covers RX 460-class Products (Updated)by Nate Oh on December 5, 2017 2:00 PM EST
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Spotted yesterday by Heise.de, AMD has silently lowered the specifications of the Radeon RX 560 to encompass parts with 14 CUs (896 Stream Processors), allowing them to be sold alongside standard 16 CU (1024 SP) parts. The net effect of this change is that it allows Radeon RX 460-level products to be sold as Radeon RX 560 cards.
With the RX 500 series Polaris family refresh, AMD based the Radeon RX 560 on a fully enabled Polaris 11 GPU, meaning all 16 of its CUs were active. By contrast, AMD never shipped a fully enabled Polaris 11 part under the 400 series (excluding the Macbook Pro specific Radeon Pro 460), so the RX 560 was a notable step up from the 14 CU Radeon RX 460. And while the logistics of chip binning meant that AMD never stopped producing 14 CU GPUs, once AMD did opt to sell a 14 CU part under RX 500 series lineup, it was introduced as the regionally-limited RX 560D.
July (top) vs Current (bottom) RX 560 GPU Specifications on AMD.com
However as it turns out, at some point recently in the past, AMD has also approved selling 14 CU parts as standard RX 560 cards. As discovered by Heise.de, sometime within the past few months the Radeon RX 560 product page on AMD's website was silently changed to include the lowered 14 CU specifications, with July still listing "16 CUs" only. The page does not note any change and still lists 4/18/17 as the full launch date, so short of knowing what to look for, the lowered specifications are practically a footnote.
|(Revised) AMD Radeon RX 560 Specification Comparison|
|AMD Radeon RX 560 (New)||AMD Radeon RX 560 (Old)||AMD Radeon RX 460||AMD Radeon R7 360|
|Compute Units||14/16 CUs
|Memory Clock||7Gbps GDDR5||7Gbps GDDR5||7Gbps GDDR5||6.5Gbps GDDR5|
|Memory Bus Width||128-bit||128-bit||128-bit||128-bit|
|Typical Board Power||60-80W||60-80W||<75W||100W|
|Manufacturing Process||GloFo 14nm||GloFo 14nm||GloFo 14nm||TSMC 28nm|
|Architecture||GCN 4||GCN 4||GCN 4||GCN 1.1|
|GPU||Polaris 11||Polaris 11||Polaris 11||Bonaire|
The consequence of this change is that AMD and its partners can now market and ship lower-performing graphics products labelled under the same "RX 560" branding. And in fact they appear to be doing so right now, not only in an OEM context via a currently shipping PC as noted by Heise.de, but also cards from AIB partners. Sapphire RX 560s now have a separate 896 SP SKU part number (11267-18) but still branded the "Pulse Radeon RX 560," while ASUS has a "RX 560 EVO OC" 896 SP part. The PowerColor Red Dragon RX 560 4GBD5-DHA product page only specifies a lower clockspeed but its 896 SP count was revealed on its Newegg listing.
Which brings us to the next point of how this does translate in terms of consumer-facing e-tailers. Amazon is directly selling both ASUS cards without SP counts and only referring to the GPU as RX 560 EVO, while Amazon UK is selling the Sapphire card without any indication of 14 CUs. Additionally, Newegg is directly selling three 896 SP RX 560s, with the SP count in the description: the PowerColor Red Dragon 4GBD5-DHA (and the 4GBD5-DHAM brown box variant), along with the ASUS ROG Strix EVO Gaming OC. Based on listing release dates, this 896 SP RX 560 situation has existed since at least the beginning of October.
Putting this into performance numbers, in a heavily compute or texturing-limited scenario, these lowered specifications would allow for cards around 12% slower than cards built to AMD's original specifications. In effect, AMD is now able to ship the lower-performing RX 460-like cards, but has done so in a very non-transparent, consumer-unfriendly manner.
Now it should be noted that rebrands like this are not uncommon with OEM parts and the lowest-end retail SKUs, and that goes for both NVIDIA and AMD. OEM cards in particular are often used to burn off excess chips or other inventory that's just sitting around. What is atypical here is that it appears that AMD has silently swapped out the specifications of a mainstream ($100+) retail product; one that is already shipping. And if what we're noticing here with AIB partners follows, then the change is indeed directly linked to near-silent downgrades, albeit slight, of graphics parts that consumers would otherwise believe are higher-performing.
We have reached out to AMD for any clarification, but we have not heard back from them as of press time.
Update (12/5/17, 6 p.m. ET): An AMD statement given to our sister site confirms the two RX 560 variants, and AMD also noted that AIB partners would be responsible for communicating a given RX 560 model's specifications.
Update (12/6/17, 2 p.m. ET): AMD has provided a full comment to us in regards to the situation:
It’s correct that 14 Compute Unit (896 stream processors) and 16 Compute Unit (1024 stream processor) versions of the Radeon RX 560 are available. We introduced the 14CU version this summer to provide AIBs and the market with more RX 500 series options. It’s come to our attention that on certain AIB and etail websites there’s no clear delineation between the two variants. We’re taking immediate steps to remedy this: we’re working with all AIB and channel partners to make sure the product descriptions and names clarify the CU count, so that gamers and consumers know exactly what they’re buying. We apologize for the confusion this may have caused.
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Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer - Thursday, December 7, 2017 - linkOuch.
I keep saying "I'd buy an AMD CPU if they do this", or "I'd buy a GPU for a Linux box when they do that." And then I don't.
And I'm lying to myself, because it's not that I think that AMD can beat Intel and Nvidia, I just want them to be good enough to keep Intel and Nvidia in check pricewise and moving forward, letting someone else buy them so that I can get an affordable six or eight core Intel i7 with the GTX 2080 or whatever high end card they put out next.
So I rah-rah them on the Internet while a little voice in the back of my head reminds me that they'll never really be good enough to seriously consider using in a high end build. Not because I personally care about bragging rights, but because the better of a system you build today, with the least chance of having major driver issues and the like, the longer you can go before building your next one.
(Though, having purchased and returned a Mixed Reality headset, the urge to put together a God Box for VR has ebbed significantly so I guess it doesn't matter that much in my case anyway.)
Agent Smith - Wednesday, December 6, 2017 - linkSounds like a simple case of AMD releasing lower grade product to satisfy AIB partners due to stock shortages. These companies were promised stock and already had packaging supplied with wording and graphics for said higher spec GPU’s.
The problem for AMD is that they didnt cover themselves by stipulating these companies would be doing this by press realease.
Now they have undermined all the trust they had recently in the consumer market, which doesn’t bode well for their other product promotions now.
With this in mind it doesn't suprise me they released that statement under pressure. I bet there are some short-term discounts being offered yo AIB’s now to cover their costs.
Agent Smith - Wednesday, December 6, 2017 - linkIMO
This problem will disappear soon provided AMD takes control with press releases and behind the scenes compensations quickly.
wow&wow - Wednesday, December 6, 2017 - linkI have been praising Lisa Su's integrity, but her integrity is now in question!
Call it RX 560 TOT (Trick-Or-Treat), RX 560 GFD (GPU For Dummies), RX 560 LSI (Lisa Su's Integrity), ... : )
AMD paycheck collectors' names are still the same whether 2 balls or 1 ball, aren't they? Yes, indeed.
Blame on AIB OEMs to damage the relationships, what a coward and wow!
Repeat to each of AMD paycheck collectors until they are eliminated or properly retrained:
Your name is still the same whether 2 balls or 1 ball, isn't it? Yes, indeed.
"We apologize for the confusion this may have caused."
Stop copying politician's sentence and go by the fact: We apologize for the confusion this has been causing.
Actually, no need to apologize but an explanation as below:
Can you tell a car is an in-line-4 or V6? Not until you drive it, or some dummies can't even tell when they drive it. It's buyers' responsibility to know buying an in-line-4 or V6, isn't it?
Buyers: But car manufacturers let us know about the two choices upfront.
AMD: But you aren't buying cars, are you?
Paycheck collectors are just having fun with buyers, aren't they? : )
wow&wow - Wednesday, December 6, 2017 - linkNext, AMD could be even more creative and gave people more options and offerred 4 ways to spell its CEO's name: Lisa Su, Liza Su, Lisa Zu, or Liza Zu, the same person anyway : )
GreenReaper - Tuesday, December 12, 2017 - linkJust make it LiSau, one less character but essentially the same thing . . . right? ^_^;
SlyNine - Sunday, December 10, 2017 - linkThat's pretty fked.
watzupken - Monday, December 11, 2017 - linkI am not sure what is the reason for this dodgy move, but AMD should consider renaming this lower specced product. The name is misleading plus the fact that they silently changed the spec on both the hardware and their website.