AMD Ryzen 3000 Announced
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  • ChubChub - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link

    I work for a relatively small ISP (~50 racks), and all of OUR new server purchases are exclusively being quoted out as Epyc (customers are loading whatever they want).

    At least by us, and I expect others, QuickAssist is largely seen as an unnecessary backdoor of likely poor security, and with dubious value. As well, Intel's Meltdown/Spectre/Fallout/etc vulnerabilities that have greatly reduced the processing power that we purchased is deplorable, and further erodes our faith in proprietary Intel implementations. On top of that, we also see QuickAssist as an unnneccessary "lock-in" to a CPU architecture, which is very bad business for people like us.

    Having said that, as far as I know, AMD does not have an equivalent, but I doubt it matters to most people, as cost/performance, density (very important for us), security, and availability are the main decision points, and the new Epyc chips win on all fronts.
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  • Gondalf - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link

    Too bad your words are not assisted by hard facts or numbers, and AMD market share remain really low. Be careful, likely there is a security hole in your new SKU that you don't know because nobody have given notice of it.
    Marketing post.
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  • just4U - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link

    Their 64 core 7nm Rome CPU's might boost their market share.. no? Reply
  • just4U - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link

    This is what I heard about the Rome CPU according to articles.
    It's the first to support PCIE 4.0, is a drop in replacement for existing boards, has 4x the floating point power of the previous gen, and 2x the speed per socket over naples. They showed a demo of 1 Rome cpu beating 2 flagship intels in a rendering test..

    I don't know a whole helluva lot about cpu's like that but it sounds impressive..
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  • zmatt - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link

    AMDs numbers have grown supstantially in the enterprise space in the last two years. Intel still has the majority but these things don't happen overnight. Somebody is buying a lot of epyc based systems though and the extra attention given by cloud providers like Amazon means you should take it seriously.

    I don't admin nearly as many systems as OP but I am also looking at epyc for out next VM cluster later this year. And it really does come down to price/performance. They have a much more sensible upgrade path and road map too.
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  • just4U - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link

    Price/Performance has always been a selling point for AMD.. but from speculation by others it appears AMD will be competing with Intel across just about every sector and not just at certain price points.. either matching or beating them outright. Something that we haven't really seen before. It's gotten a lot of people really excited and should certainly bode well for all of us as Intel will be forced to compete on pricing as well as innovation. Reply
  • vFunct - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link

    Going to be hard for AMD to compete against the very datacenter focused Intel Xeon products, with optimizations for video transcoding, as well as FPGA accelerators. Reply
  • zmatt - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link

    Depends on what you are doing. The vast majority of businesses do not use their servers for video transcoding. Most of the work done is pretty mundane. AD domain controllers, SMB file servers, SQL servers, VDI and application hosting.

    Users with more specific needs will have to be more discerning but for everyone else its a simple price/performance arithmetic.
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  • Santoval - Monday, May 27, 2019 - link

    "Marketing post".
    Do you mean your own post?
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  • Bulat Ziganshin - Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - link

    it may seem sensible unless they have 8c for $300, so 16c $600 is even easier to produce Reply

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